He was in a really good place: 'Friends' co-creators on final conversation with Perry

'Friends' co-creators Marta Kauffman and David Crane recalled their final conversation with Matthew Perry before his death last month, saying that the actor "was in a really good place". "He was happy and chipper. He didn't seem weighed down by anything," Kauffman further said, adding that Perry's death "seems so unfair".